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'm not to talk about the guy is behind social security and medicare, and then talk about medicare because that's the big driver of our deficits right now. you know, my grandmother -- some of you know -- helped to raise me. my grandparents did. my grandfather died a while back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. she was fiercely independent. she worked her way up, only a high-school education. she ended up being vice president of the local bank. she ended up living alone by choice. and the reason she to be independent was because of social security and medicare. she had worked all her life, put in this money, and understood there was a basic guarantee, a floor under which she could not go. that is the perspective i bring when i think about what's called entitlements. the name itself implies some sense of dependency on the part of these folks. these are folks who have worked hard, like my grandmother, and there are millions of people out there counting on this. so my approach is to say, how to strengthen the system over the long term? and in medicare, we did was said,

health care. ♪ in your smile ♪ big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best fo

. >> it cuts $716 billion from medicare to pay for it. i want to put that money back in medicare. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: but the president tried to bring it back to romney's own health care law which he says is quite similar. >> governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. it hasn't destroyed jobs. >> reporter: there were few fireworks and there were even fewer surprises. both candidates were deliberate going through their policy points. rob, paula, at times that made it seem look they were more concerned with getting through their checklist than really connecting with voters watching at home. >> all right, karen. a moment when they were talking what programs would be cut. all of a sudden you heard sesame street, big bird, big bird started trending. tell us what happened? >> oh, yeah, don't let your kids hear this one. big bird is apparently on the chopping block in a mitt romney budget. he said there have to be programs that have to be eliminated if we have to borrow money. look, i love pbs, i love big bird, b

medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind it. call today. remember, medicare supplement insurance helps c

paid for obama-care by cutting $716 billion from medicare. you didn't have to do it. president obama had no answer. mitt romney said president obama you talk about a few tax breaks for the oil and gas industry. you have given much more tax breaks to the alternative energy energy and you have nothing to show for it. president obama just looked at him. at the end of the day barack obama couldn't engage on substance last night. the facts aren't going to get any better between thousand and the next two debates. the alternative energy market is not going to start working in the next two weeks. the obama economic policies aren't going to be working in the effect two weeks. it wasn't about style. it's about substance and obama not being able to stand on his own record. that record is not going to change between now and the next debate. martha: thank you for being with us today. bill: president obama telling the american people there is one pledge he will always keep. >> four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and i'm no won't be a perfect president. that's probably a promise governor ro

reform, today our parents and grandparents on medicare are paying hundreds less for their prescription drugs. our young people can stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26 years old. [applause] insurance companies now have to cover basic preventive care. things like droon interception, cancer screening. they won't be able to discriminate against you because you have a preexisting condition like diabetes or asthma, and if you get a serious illness -- let's say breast cancer -- and you need expensive treatment. they can no longer tell you sorry, you hit your lifetime limit and we're not covering a penny more. that is illegal because of health reform. and as eli mentioned, when it comes to giving our young people the education they deserve -- see, barack knows that like me and like so many of you he never, never couch attended college without financial aid. never. in fact, as i shared in my speech in charlotte, when we were first married, our combined student loan bills were higher than our mortgage. when it comes to student debt, barack and i, we've been there. this is not a hyp

between a patient and a doctor. we certainly do not need to steal money from medicare to pay for it. >> senator kerrey, 30 seconds. >> nothing was stolen. all it did was extended the insolvency date of medicare back 8 years. do what she wants to do, and insolvency will occur in 2016. i ask you this question -- why it is political rhetoric. obama and romney are using it. they're all using it. why are there any nebraskans over the age of 65 who are uninsured? the answer is federal law. the same arguments you hear will level against medicare in 1965. >> thank you. this is stealing over $700 billion from medicare, taking that reimbursement from hospitals. hospitals than expected to make that up. they expect to make it up because the increase in patients that would be on government insurance. that was the deal made. you can talk about political statements, but the fact is, it takes at $700 billion from medicare. >> thank you, senator. the next is for sen. fischer. >> do you think every american is entitled to healthcare, quality health care to insurance? or do you think it is something t

long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose fro

a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to cho

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on with such a thing that losing our sons. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and p

alone would save medicare $57 billion over 10 years. that is one step. we have to look at other stops to reduce that. >> take is listen, we had we jack welch on a couple of minute of minutes ago with interesting comments, interesting tweets about today's jobless numbers. take a listen and comment. >> we have been told that you need 150 to 200,000 to stay even. in the last two months we gone great 8.3 to 8.1 by changing the participation rate assumption. now we are going from 8.1 to 7.8 by changing the household number assumptions. i don't know what the right number is but i will tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> are you going to use the jobless numbers today the way president obama is doing it? >>guest: no i would rather talk about the fact with the largest job creators in the country jon huntsman sr. endorsed me today. >> i wasn't going to ignore that. >>guest: that seems like bigger news for me, i have the u.s. chamber, a conservative leaning group, i have jon huntsman, sr., an icon in utah, with a $12 billion company t

on medicare, he won't be specific on medicaid, he won't fill in the details on his tax plan but he got specific about a bird. erin, give me a break. dana, thanks for your time tonight. have a good weekend. >> you, too. >>> coming up, governor romney says he's completely wrong about the 47% he called victims. does anyone really buy this? >>> and breaking news out of ohio. it's a major victory in the fight of your voting rights. [ male announcer ] what if you had thermal night-vision goggles, like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male annou

that? he says, oh, i'm going to repeal dodd frank. oh, yeah, medicare will be a voucher. these are not good things for mitt romney. >> yeah. juan, you want to throw to your favorite piece for the night? >> sure. here is president obama responding to one of these -- i don't know what you call it, distortion, dreamland that romney presented and i think as time goes on, people will say, these policies are not good policies. not the guy i want to vote for. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan and now five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> never mind. never mind my promise that i'm going to cut taxes and i'm going to also balance the deficit, but i'm not going to tell you about the loopholes i'm going to close or the deductions. so just trust me. you know, come on. >> that would be -- if that was an effective message, then president obama would have done a lot better last night. that is the line that the obama team has been trotting out for several months and then it didn't match up with reality and if you do

when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to travel -- an

generation so these promises are kept. >> they have laid out clearly -- they say we have endangered medicare. they have stolen money from medicare to get money for obamacare. you see it and hear it in everything they say. nothing could be further from the truth. >> joe biden and paul ryan will face off in their only debate. you can watch and engage with c- span on our live debate preview starting at 7:00 eastern followed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction, calls, e-mails, and it reads at 10:30. >> in a little more than an hour and a half, a forum on possible tax increases caused by the so- called fiscal cliff after the first of the year. later, the senate debate in the jersey. on washington journal tomorrow morning, we will be joined by ann coulter. we will talk about politics with katrina vanden heuvel, editor of "the nation." washington journal is live everyday at 7:00 eastern. >> americans are not the only people to have a september 11 in their national story. in santiago, chile there was a september 11 even that had a dramatic impact on chilean history and memory. military officers on

. most importantly social security and medicare. if you talk about the specifics, why not then however romney is going to answer it, ask president obama. you have this opportunity, goals. your campaign advisor last week, axelrod said you don't need a specific plan on social security. to turn it that way. one thing that is effective for romney to do, say to the american people, i will not -- if i'm fortunate enough to be elected to be your president, i will not spend four years blaming this guy. i will focus on getting solutions done. that's more effective than worrying about this or that tax cut. in january, whatever the tax economy is, if you become president, that's when you decide what the tax closures will be. >> bob: good idea what you said, to say that. but he still has to say when he said on the trail -- by the way, obama should say your own vice president candidate voted against simpson-bow-bowles. leaving that aside, can you tell us what loopholes you are going to cut that won't affect the middle class? he can't. >> eric: you know what else president obama can't do is talk abo

, when he was attacking romney in the middle section of the debate over his budget, medicare and tax plans. other than that, i don't think people would come away with much of an idea of what president obama would give them if they give him another four years. >> romney, they say, will ultimately rise in the polls because of his debate perfo performance. for that small number of voters that haven't made up their minds, has this helped romney? >> very difficult past few weeks, if last night went well for the president you kind of have a hardening of the belief that the race is virtually sealed, out of reach. the debate has ended that discussion and it's going to remind us, move into the conversation, a reminder that the president faces in this debate. mitt romney did had himself some good with those undecided voters and just as importantly energized the he republican base. there's a sense of retooling in the obama campaign, look, incoming presidents often have problems in their first debate. people don't talk to you like that in the oval office. no question the president needs a reset.

launch one of the largest crackdowns on medicare fraud. $430 million in scams leads to arrests from coast to coast. >> tom: and we'll introduce you to a company hoping to become the mcdonald's for healthy eaters. >> susie: that and more tonight on nbr! >> tom: it was right back to the campaign trail today for president obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets that $5 trillion number he used again today. governor romney's plan to cut tax rates by 20% would add up to about $5 trillion over ten years, assuming no other changes. but governor romney is planning to make other changes by eliminating tax deductions worth about the same amount. but the president is accurate when he says governor romney is making many promises in

've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>neil: the poll that is not getting out, the one where mitt romney is leading, leading, among ns and by a lot. our pollster is here to say this election is not over because indep

? >> the first thing in our article here is getting medicare costs under control is the number one priority and it is the most untouchable thing. that will cause more trouble than any other problem we have fiscally in the united states. getting medicare costs under control is the number one thing. >> you say we also surcharges' smokers and the obies for their mevacor -- medicare programs. where did that idea come from? >> it came from us. i put it in the memo but i did not have to fight hard for it. it is something i ran in the washington post. i called people mega fatties rather than morbidly obese. i was rebuked for being insensitive. i guess i probably am. everyone knows it is true. someone has to pay for it. i am not saying you should bankrupt people if they are too heavy. but there should be penalties. i am not really a democrat but i am a democrat compared to him. it have to be responsible to some extent for your personal behavior. someone is going to pay for it. >> quite right. we should point out we are not the only ones making arguments like this. there have been other bipartisan c

article is getting medicare cost under control. that is the most untouchable thing. that is going to cause more trouble than any other problem we have fiscally in the united states. getting medicare costs under control is the number one thing. >> you say we also surcharge smokers and the obies for their medicare coverage. where did that come from? -- be obese for their medicare coverage. >> i am the one who put it into the memo, but i did not have to fight hard for it. something i put in the washington post, i called them mega fatties. i was rebuked for being insensitive, which i guess i probably am. but this is another thing where everybody knows this to be true and somebody has to pay for it. i am not saying you have to bankrupt people who are too heavy, but there should be penalties. i an not really a democrat, but i am a democrat compared to him. you have to be responsible to some extent for your own behavior. somebody is going to pay for it. >> we should point out also we are not the only people making arguments for this. there have been bipartisan commissions, a task force headed by

to cut medicare. you said, there you go again, mr. president. what did you do after the election? you tried to cut $20 billion out of medicare. [applause] when you say, there you go again. people remember this. people will remember you signed the biggest tax increase in the history of california and the biggest tax increase in the history of the united states. what are you going to do? you have a $260 billion deficit. you will not slow defense spending. you refuse to do that. >> mr. mondale, your time is up. >> as we get closer to the first presidential debate, we are looking back at the dates from our archives starting with president reagan and walter mondale at 7:00 eastern. later in the evening, the 1992 debate between george bush, bill clinton, and prospero -- ross perot. >> republican vice president joe candidate paul ryan is making campaign stops in new hampshire and ohio. here is his campaign rally from this morning in new hampshire. he speaks for about half an hour. ♪ >> thank you so much for coming out, everybody. thank you so much. thank you for hosting us. thank you for s

. >>> federal agents arrested dozens of medical professionals in a nationwide sweep of alleged medicare sweep. teresa garcia reports. >> reporter: the medicare fraud strike force took aim at 91 defendants including doctors and nurses in one of the largest health care fraud busts. arrests were made in baton rouge, brooklyn, chicago, dallas, houston, los angeles and miami. the charges involve allege treatment and services that were eater medically unnecessary or in some cases never actually provided. the u.s. attorney general says the fraud amounts to nearly $430 million in false billings. >> the total includes over $to 30 million in home health care fraud, more than $100 million in mental health care fraud and approximately $49 million in ambulancing transportation fraud. >> reporter: prosecutors say alpha ambulance in los angeles is responsible for the whopping transportation fraud, four top people in the company were arrested. >> can someone there speak to us about the four that were arrested from your business? >> i have no idea. >> reporter: according to the indictment two of the defendant

been arrested in a mass case of medicare fraud. fbi raids in 9 cities led to the arrest of doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals. the crimes scammed an estimated $432 million from medicare. a majority of the fraud took place in miami. other cities hit include chicago, detroit, baton rouge, l.a., new york, tampa, dallas, and houston. those arrested are being accused of false billing. "these alleged actions represent an alarming, and unacceptable, nationwide trend of individuals attempting to exploit federal healthcare programs and, collectively, to steal billions in taxpayer dollars for personal gain." that was attorney general eric holder. holder calls the fraud case one of the largest medicare fraud schemes ever. american airlines is addressing its flight problems. the airline said yesterday that it has inspected 48 boeing 757s in its fleet and is fixing loose seats on some of them. all of the planes are back in service. this week, rows of seats became loose on 3 flights and resulted in 2 emergency landings. during the next few weeks, federal regulators will work with

the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. it's arithmetic. >> reporter: on medicare and social security one agreement. >> neither the president nor i are proposing any changes for any current retirees or near retirees. >> reporter: in ten years romney wants a private medicare option. >> aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare substantially. >> reporter: romney fired back in a major debate moment that the president weakened the economy by his focus on health care. >> i just don't know how the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> we did work on this alongside working on jobs because this is part of making sure that middle class families are secure in this country. >> reporter: a substantial debate. no zingers. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver. >>> all right. so how did the candidates do? well, post debate instant polls reveal that most voters believe mitt romney did better than presi

agreed that neither of their medicare plans would hurt existing elderly or anyone about to retire. they disagreed on the $716 million that obama caught current retiree, but the medi-scare and the social security scare tactic can't be used because obama stipulated that that won't be a problem. i think by failing to raise the 45%, the cayman islands and the tax return and the bain capital, obama was basically conceding that those are not legitimate shots. how can you spend $200 million advertising to push these facts and then when you confront the guy, you don't mention them? >> greta: you see -- i actually thought that that was smart because he looks like he is above this. that he is more presidential. and he leaves the dirty work to somebody else and doesn't have fingerprints on it, if they are done in campaign ads and certainly, pac ads, rather than his own campaign. >> that's the point, greta. it's the president says this is not worth dignifying and making it an issue, this is not worth the dignity of a presidential race, how are people going to vote based on it? it's dismissing

found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to travel -- and there's s

and romney are arguing over who is going to spend more money on medicare would need to have a reading debate and discussion on this country on how we slash medicare spending because if we do not, i believe we will find ourselves in the midst of a monetary collapsed as a result of continuing to borrow and spend money to the tune of 43 cents out of every dollar we spend. host: so what do you see on that particular issue? what is your prescription? pardon the expression. >> i oversaw the or form of medicaid in the mexico when i was governor of new mexico. we ticket from a fee-for- service model to a managed-care model. we saved hundreds of millions of dollars, set up better health care networks for the poor. i believe if the federal government would have a lot granted the state of new mexico 43% less money, and done away with all the strings and the mandate, i could've effectively oversee the delivery of health care to the fore. i think you apply that same template to medicare, health care for those over 65, get the federal government out of the health-care business completely , give it up to t

are like all of this budget stuff, sorry, is just math. we have to slash medicare and so forth. so it is funny that the party of math now is like creating their own -- >> alternate polling. >> sheila, i want to get your thoughts on this. i want to note for people watching this, josh, you worked on mitt romney's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. >> that's right. >> you've been a republican -- i don't know if you are a registered republican. >> i am. >> you worked for bob dole. i want to make sure people watching, we're not a bunch of liberals talking about those crazy people out there because you've been in the republican party. you worked on the republican party. i think you consider yourself a republican now? >> absolutely. >> i'm curious what you make of this. am i wrong? is this a natural human instinct that the internet cult at this vats and people do it or is there a broader issue here with this kind of turning inward if that's happened i think among the right? >> well, i think it's kind of a silly debate about the polls. you're right, all the polls are showing consistent trends. i

called my aunt. wait a minute, i knew romney was going to privatize medicare and they are leaving that out. if you are issue oriented when you hear romney say i am going to voucherize medicare you are concerned. >> it is not just about medicare, benjamin. he said he will not raise taxes. he will cut spending and cutting spending you take those dollars to decrease taxes. small businesses have been taxed enough. the reason why we have the tea party, we are taxed enough already . the bottom line, obama came up with great friends but 47 million people are on food stampings. >> you seem to disagree with a lot of pundits who said obama didn't do his best last night. romney won hands down. body language alone. if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting

that cheap. >> with medicare, there is a new push to crack down on fraud and investigate suspicious claims. james miller told us this week about dr. larry bernhardt's that had been making his money by ripping off medicare and billing the government insurance plan for care he did not provide. they showed how easy it is to cheat the system out of millions of dollars. a federal strike force charged 91 people including doctors and nurses with allow bread fraud schemes adding up to $429 million in false billing. the washington bureau reporter joins us at a normal day -- at an alarming rate that is causing taxpayers big time. >> medicare fraud is one of the largest of its kind in medical history. officials from state, local, and federal troops have been -- the health and human services secretary said officials are working on making it harder for crux to submit fraudulent claims. they're looking at a tougher procedures for buyers and suppliers that want to participate. >> fraud not only rob's taxpayers, but also jeopardize the future of the programs that more than 100 million americans depend on

of the hot topics between president obama and governor mitt romney health care and medicare. >> indeed. kristin fisher tracking the debate for us this morning. she's live in the satellite center trying to break it all down. these are complex issues. >> reporter: good morning. this debate was so focused on the economy that it took the candidates 45 minutes before they ever mentioned the words health care. but when they did, it was certainly one ever the more memorable exchanges of the night. lively exchanges of the night. at one point mitt romney told the president point blank that if elected, he would repeal his health care law to which the president responded by saying, but we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts. here's part of that exchange. >> i want to take the $716 billion you've cut it and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program. but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obama care is in my opinion a mistake. with regards to young people coming along, i've got proposals to

is it more clear what they would do that in medicare. let me start by giving you a few specific examples. to make a examples. number one, they have laid out clearly, they say, that what barack obama and i did was we endangered medicare, that we stole money from medicare and we did this to get obamacare and all this. you see it in ads and everything they say. nothing could be further from the truth. everyone of you in this room who is on medicare or has a mother or father on medicare knows that since barack obama acted, your parents and those of you on medicare have more benefits than before. host: back to your calls on whether the vice presidential nominees will impact your vote? raymond is a democrat in waco, texas. caller: good morning. i want to make a comment on the medicare issue. i think americans should be very worried about mitt romney and paul ryan one thing to debate on that voucher. i have been to mexico. i am trying to understand what they are trying to do with that voucher. i think people should understand a voucher has a limited. if that limit of money runs out, especially

. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, more laid-back manner, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics, where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making 3 million bucks is getting a $250,000 tax break, while middle class families are burdened further. >> reporter: romney was determined to go toe to toe. >> but virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. go ahead. >> so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say, absolutely not. >> reporter: the president did get digs in. >> for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan.

said that president obama cut $716 billion out of medicare. i want to save medicare. he cut $716 billion out of medicare. that went right out of benefits. and he kept saying that over and over and over again. you know that's not true. i know that's not true. all of the fact checkers have said that's not true. president obama did not say last night it's not true. and if you don't rebut it, you let it stand so people watching are going to believe that crap. we know the truth. that $716 billion didn't come out of benefits. it was $716 billion in savings from getting rid of cleaning up the system and getting rid of fraud and getting rid of misrepresentation, getting rid of overpayments on the part of insurance companies which have been stealing that money. it didn't come out of benefits. it came out of -- again, out of the insurance companies and their misrepresentation and their fraud and the $716 billion were $716 billion in savings identified by republicans and included in paul ryan's budget which republicans in the hou

of the key issues in this campaign has been medicare which has really been brought to light since mitt romney brought on paul ryan as his running mate. do you think retrospectively that could actually cost him? >> i think this is more about mitt romney than it is about paul ryan. it's always more about the principal than it is about the vice presidential candidate. that being said, when you talk to trks over the last few years, ever since paul ryan unveiled his medicare plan several years ago, what they've said is we hope we can play even on medicare and this is in congressional races and senate races. the idea is they want to be able to play even on it. no one saying on the republican side we think we can win 70% or 75% based on this. that's usually where politicians want to be. they want to have issues that resonate with 75% of the people, not half the people. so if they're even at that 50% mark which i don't think they are right now, that would be considered a level of victory. it's hard to go into areas with lots of seniors and say i want to change the way medicare is structured. these pe

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. reforming the tax code, not as easy but not as hard as medicare and medicaid. >> well, let me back you up for a second, because what really we face as we look at the long-term fiscal outlook in the u.s. is a three-part challenge. we know that we have entitlement programs on their currently trajectories are not sustainable. we know that we have a tax code that can almost surely be improved with various reforms and we also know that we have a set of expiring provisions in both the tax code and the budget sequester which starts in january of 2013 if nothing changes which creates a lot of turbulence in fiscal policy unless we do something about that. the real challenge for u.s. policymakers and it's going to be a big challenge after the election, i think, is to try to figure out a way to get through the near term without causing lots of disruption and that probably means trying to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, while at the same time beginning the challenge and process of long-term fiscal adjustments. when i suggest that social security's probably the easiest place to start, it's not some

and medicare people, they're part of your 47%. you want to drop them from the list of eligible americans. you don't have any care for these people. what are you talking about? we've got it on tape, governor. we've got it on tape what you think of these people. don't come out here and pretend you care about old people because you met somebody at some campaign event. you've written off 47% of the country before you even started. where was obama tonight? romney, i loved the split screen. staring at obama. addressing him. like the prey. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i've got to beat the champ and i've got to beat him tonight and i don't care what this guy moderator whatever he thinks he is because i'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning

, not supported, or actually it recoiled. 60-7% of americans support medicare, support social security, what does that mean? having the richest in this country pay their fair share. i think there is an awareness that, for example, the ryan budget, is not popular with the voters and the american people. there's a lot of smoothing and a duck and cover in order to sell something other than what is actually on the table. host: thanks very much. let's take a call from loretta. she is watching us in cleveland, a democrat there. caller: good morning, ladies. katrina, i agree with you. we remember the box of rocks that bush left obama when he came into office. i am shocked by how the media has given the republicans a pass, because when bush came into office, clinton left him a $5.60 trillion surplus. bush gave it away to his billionaire buddy spirit that was 2001. i -- david which was billionaire bodies. that was 2001. in 2003, bush gave republican job creators $3.50 trillion for jobs, but we got 99 despite 2008. that is a whole year. president obama was then-senator obama -- guest: your command of the n

. >>> it is being called one of the largest medicare fraud cases in history. coming up next, details of a major bust. >>> today marks one year since the death of steve jobs. does the company he founded so any signs of slowing down? we'll check more headlines coming up. >> first, a check of the markets. investors around the globe will be paying attention to today's u.s. jobs report. there are some predictions the unemployment rate could go up to 8.2% from 8.1. u.s. stocks were up thursday ahead of the report. the dow picked up 81 points. the nasdaq rose 14. today in japan, the nikkei rose 39. it is now 5:37. we'll be back. we david smallwood: maryland money needs to stay in maryland. it's just that simple, i mean, it's a no brainer. anncr: every year marylanders spend five hundred and fifty... million at casinos in west virginia, delaware... and pennsylvania. one west virginia paper calls it a "cash cow" for them. but its cost maryland over one billion dollars. money that could have created good jobs and... better schools for us. question seven keeps maryland money in maryland. david smallwood: quest

revolution taking place in medical care now. it is in medicare website, hospital compare, and it has ratings for hospitals, patient satisfaction scores to my information on whether they follow best practices. some of the information is helpful. some of it is not. but we are seeing a revolution out where the heart surgeon's society is getting ready -- together with consumer reports in a way to measure outcomes. and 40% of hospitals now participate in this outcome performance test. host: 10 in new york on the republican line. -- ken in new york on the republican line. caller: i went into the hospital with a compound fracture of my lower right leg. at a local hospital here i had to read through all of the paperwork there were handing me before i went into surgery. -- they were handing me before winter surgery. -- went into surgery. and it had something to do with the left leg. i was like, wait a minute, i broke my right leg here. now i have to look over these forms again. they had to go back and redo and bring me the correct forms. i was in there for about almost a month. they transferred me t

and paul ryan for their medicare reform plan, claiming it will put more financial burden on seniors. >> in pennsylvania, six teenage girls have been charged as adults suspected of viciously beating a woman that police say is mentally disabled. the attack happened just outside philadelphia on tuesday, and it was caught on a cell phone camera. the video was posted on facebook and as you can see, the woman being beaten and stomped as some of the suspects there actually sit on her body as well. she actually was sitting on the front steps. police say the girls chased the woman into her house and continued to beat her with a chair, a shoe, and their fists. here's what the mother of one of the girls had to say. >> i never talked to my child since she went to school yesterday. i have yet to talk to her yet. >> what about your other daughter? >> i haven't talked to her. >> she apparently was the instigator. >> i haven't seen the video and haven't talked to my child. sorry for the things that happened. i have nothing to say. >> they were charged with first degree assault and burglary. they're

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and medicare and the role of the federal government. the president said romney's ideas are not specific enough. >> his running mate, congressman ryan put forward a budget that reflects many of the principles that governor romney has talked about, and it wasn't very detailed. this seems to be a trend. >>reporter: and romney repeatedly accused the president of misrepresenting his position. >> i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it, but that is not the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >>reporter: this is the first of three presidential debates. the next one is scheduled for october 16th, but the vice presidential candidates debate a week from today. allison. >> nicole collins live on the hill, nicole, thank you. >>> both parties are analyzing the debates this morning. vice president joe biden says romney did not give enough specifics and republican florida senator marco rubio thinks the president appeared uncomfortable. so what did you think of the debate? we

was medicare . jim lehrer was but -- but. he got confused. >> steve: poor guy. >> brian: 78. ♪ ♪ [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... ♪ >> brian: hey, glad you are up. why was president obama so off of his game in the debate. journalist bob woodword had a theory on shared on the radio on kilmeade and friends. >> something happened intelligence report, who knows the things that can happen in a president's life that distract him. he was distracted. it was not an engaged obama. i think as the onion gets peeled on this. we'll find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> brian: could personal problems be the reason and blame why the president did so poorly . dick morris, you wrote the book screwed, you should know. >> he noticed there was not a teleprompter in front of him. i leave it to al gore to explain his bad performance on cloimate change when he said altitude in denver . two reasons for the bad performance . the first is, he's no

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